Comments: Chipotle Corn Chowder

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Sounds lovely! Do you think it would work cold? (Paris is going through a heat wave at the moment!)

I don't know. Not enough survived the initial encounter. I'd guess it'd be OK, though you might downplay the chipotle swirl since I don't think of cold and spicy going together.

I don't think of cold and spicy going together.

Um...salsa? Gazpacho? Bloody Marys?? Okay, they all involve tomatoes but they are all also cold and spicy!

Meg: I just found out they have corn kernels at Picard! I was schlepping all the way to Chinatown for corn on the cob last summer. Il fait chaud! -David

Ooh, now that's worth knowing - thanks for the tip!!

Chipotle en adobo is really good for pairing with the supersweet varieties of corn which are glutting the American markets. I don't much care for those varieties myself--they taste more like candy than corn, but I discovered that if you use them in a corn chowder with chipotle en adobo and some bacon, the supersweet corn suddenly becomes a flavor that I can get behind.

OK, you got me. Maybe it's the tomato that makes cold and spicy work. I'd be willing to make another batch and try it. It only took 20 minutes to make this batch.

Yeah, I dunno. Those canned things are good, but can be awful strong. If you want some of the best smoked chile peppers ever, dial in:
http://www.tierravegetables.com/
Their smoked chile peppers come out soft and leathery. Use the canned soupy ones if you must, but at least give these folks a try and see what a real smoked pepper is all about. I have them on-hand at all times. Yes, traditionally the Chipotle is a smoked Jalapeno, but truthfully, they're all good.

Biggles

Barrett, this looks tremendous and it's definitely something I'll be trying. Thanks!

Soupy? I'm not sure which brand of peeprs in adobo you've been buying, Doc B. The ones I get are in a sauce thick as can be and very very tasty.

Hey Barrett,

Yes, the chiles in cans are tasty. But as with most food related situations, canned isn't as good as 'fresh'.
Let's pretend you wanted some fresh peaches. Would you opt for the canned peaches from Dole? Or would you rather have something from a local farm?
Do you wish to have spam over a naturally raised hog's loin roast?
I'm not saying the canned chipotle peppers are bad, but you can do better. You can do better VERY easily.
The ball is in your court.

Biggles

If you're making a spaghetti sauce do you use canned tomatoes or fresh? In most cases the canned tomatoes are going to be better than the fresh because they've been allowed to ripen on the vine and then canned after developing fully. The fresh tomatoes will usually be flavorless since they're picked too early so they'll survive transportation.

Canning has a bad reputation, but select foods are very good out of a can. I'll keep an open mind about fresh chipotles, but in mind the adobo sauce in the can is just as important as the chiles in this recipe.

Thanks for the comments. I'll definitely check out that vendor for chipotles

You cannot, under any circumstances call any smoked item "fresh."

It is preserved. Smoke is a preservative. Sorry, Dr. Biggles, but while I agree with your general theory that "canned" food products in general are inferior to "fresh," I will quibble with your usage of the word "fresh" to denote any kind of smoked product.

Canning, drying, smoking, salting, brining, pickling, freezing, jellymaking, fermentation--all of these techniques were develped in order to preserve a fresh food for the lean times of the winter. They are mankind's way of hedging our bets for the winter.

The fact that each of these techniques create food products with better or more interesting flavors than the "fresh" item is merely a side benefit. A side benefit that with the advent of refrigeration that was cheap enough for most people in the Western world to use, was made the entire point of many preservation exercises.

That said, I agree with Barrette on the issue of canned tomatoes vs. fresh in pasta sauces, and I agree with him on some canned chipotle en adobo being plenty thick and tasty. And sorry--the smoked chiles used in those cans are just as "real" as the ones you are calling fresh. And I bet that while the "fresh" ones taste plenty good, they probably are not "better" in a quantifiable sense than the ones in the can--just different.

It is all a matter of taste, really, and whether or not you want just the chile, or you want the thick adobo sauce that comes with it.

Dang, Barbara!

I gotta say, you just NEVER know which posts are going to generate a lot comments...

Hmm, I wasn't talking about tomatoes. I use canned tomatoes because of the reasons you gave.
I use freshly smoked & dried chiles from Tierra Vegetables because of the quality and flavor I can't get with the canned chipotle chile peppers. As I said, the canned ones are tasty (this is a good thing).
Just offering up a another way of doing the same thing.

Biggles

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