Comments: Restaurant review - Pizza D.O.C.

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I've been wanting to try that place forever... I've heard so many things about it. I can't remember what your experience level is with Italian pizza, but do you have any sense of how faithful it is? They are, after all, making claims to authenticity with their name.

Also just to point out -- I don't know how it works in France, but DOC and DOCG aren't necessarily good indicators of quality. They just mean the wines have adhered to certain specifications laid down by the government -- specifications which frequently have more to do with political activism on the part of wine growers than anything else. Many of the greatest Italian wines, for example the famed Super Tuscans, are vino di tavola (the Italian equivalent of vin de pays).

i haven't been to Italy (later this year, I hope, that will change), but the pies look and seem to be built the same way that I have seen true Italian pizza made on television. As for the taste - it's amazing.

I'm surprised to hear that about the DOC and DOCG labels. I've had good luck picking those wines as opposed to non-DOC wines from Italy, but that may be reflective of the export market or even just the Chicago wine market.

When you decide you want to go, I'll be glad to go with you to make sure you don't lose your way there or anything.

It sounds like we might be going next week sometime. Maybe you should email me about that...

Interesting about pizza in italy... there are two distinct styles I've encountered. One is an extremely thin and light crust that comes out very airy and a little crunchy -- this is topped with various things and usually served on a single plate, as an individual portion. Maybe it's 10-12 inches in diameter.

The other kind is found at your sweaty local pizzeria -- usually it has a thicker crust (like what we had the other night), but it's topped similarly and is sold by weight, with a napkin usually.

Anyway, it sounds like Pizza DOC probably serves the former -- that soup effect sounds familiar to me.

As far as the DOCs and DOCGs go, I'm not surprised that you're having good luck, because I do think that those wines will tend to reflect better winemaking practices, etc. I just think you're likely to miss some great wines that are classified lower for other reasons. Also, you have a situation where every chianti and chianti classico is a DOCG -- and yet there's some real crap out there. So you have to take a little care!

DOC AND DOCG are not necessarily indicators of quality. In fact, there are wineries like Castello delle Regine in Umbria that refuse to allow the DOC commission on their property! Like many other government agencies world wide, this one has created a bureaucy that makes many vitners shake their heads. The people at Castello della Regine obviously know what they're doing- they've won the tres biecheri award four out of the last five years!

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